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Talking Expat Taxes #11

Franchise Your Way to America: E-2 Visa Strategies with Adam Goldman

In this episode of Talking Expat Taxes, Alex McGowin sits down with franchise expert Adam Goldman to explore how he's been helping foreign investors obtain E-2 visas and franchise businesses to get to break into the U.S. market. Adam details a starting invest of $125,000 - significantly less than other visa pathways. Also covered, are the practical aspects of finding E-2-friendly franchises, coordinating visa applications with business investments, and leveraging service-based businesses for successful applications.

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Show Notes

If you're coming from outside of the United States and trying to get this thing going, by nature, it might be harder than normal for you to kind of get in the flow and to hire and to really succeed. But what I find is that the hardest time for my candidates is at the very beginning—they tend to actually overperform other franchisees by the end of year one or year two.

Takeaways

  • The Investment Visa Price Staircase

    The E-2 visa is accessible with investments starting at approximately $125,000, making it more attainable than EB-5 ($1M+) or golden visas ($5M).

  • Residency through business operations

    E-2 visas are renewable every two years with no limit, provided the business remains a viable, functioning enterprise.

I want to like shout from the rooftops. Do you wanna come to United States? Come in, invest, create American jobs, and we welcome you.

Today's Guest
Adam Goldman

Adam Goldman

A franchise consultant with over 20 years of experience as an investor and entrepreneur across two continents. He has founded successful companies in IT, real estate, and franchising, most notably building and selling a multi-million dollar Vanguard Cleaning operation with 30+ franchisees. With his unique experience as both franchisee and Master Franchisor, Adam specializes in matching foreign investors with franchise opportunities that satisfy E-2 visa requirements while creating sustainable businesses, with approximately 25-30% of his practice dedicated to helping international entrepreneurs navigate this immigration pathway.franchisecoach.netEmail Adam

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00:00:00Alex

Welcome to another episode of Talking Expat Taxes. My name's Alex McGowan, owner of McGowan Tax LLC, where we help individuals and small businesses with international operations, stay compliant with their IRS, with their taxes and actually save money with their taxes.

00:00:14Alex

So generally, and a lot of times what I'm talking about and talking to is people investing from the US outside the us, right? So from a US perspective, an outbound transaction or situation, but also deal with and talk to a lot of people investing into the us. Um, and usually when they get to me, we're talking about the tax implications, tax strategy of, you know, what it means to be a resident and that sort of thing.

00:00:40Alex

But before that, a lot of times I'm talking to people, how do you. How do you actually get here? How do you invest in the us? How do you get a visa? And one of the more popular visas is the E two visa, which requires, um, you know, actually investing in a US business that's creating jobs, which is easier said than done.

00:01:00Alex

Right? So one of the ways to do that, uh, an alternative I guess would be through a franchise. Um, and that's what we're gonna talk about today. I have a special guest, Adam Goldman, that's come on, that's gonna talk to us a little bit about. His business, you know, helping people do just that. Invest into franchise businesses.

00:01:19Alex

We'll talk about what that means, how it connects to the E two Visa, and all that good stuff. So Adam, great to have you on. Appreciate you being here. Um,

00:01:27Adam

Alex. Excited to be here today.

00:01:30Alex

awesome. Yeah. So maybe just give us a little bit of background. You know, how'd you get into this franchise consulting type world, how long you've been doing it.

Meet Adam Goldman

00:01:37Adam

so I'm an investor myself, right? So. owned a successful business in Europe, right. Sold that. Wasn't sure what I wanted to do when I grew up. then when, when we're dealing with this last great recession in 2008, uh, decided to become a real estate investor and that went really well. Great timing. Uh, bought some properties right after that and I. Uh, found that that market was becoming saturated and just kind of in 2010 was connected to someone in the franchising world decided that I wanted to become a franchisee myself. Right. Or a franchisor as well. So I bought the rights to Houston for an office cleaning master franchise, I had that business for eight and a half years until someone gave me. An unsolicited offer on my business. Uh, that was pretty, uh, that was a pretty great deal. Uh, and so kind of stumbled into franchise coaching and consulting. what I've realized recently is that, or actually not only recently, but with doing this now for eight plus years, one of my biggest lines of people of interested in franchises or people that are looking to immigrate to the United States through an E two, it's about 25 to 30% of my business.

00:02:48Alex

Oh wow. Most of the inbound work I'm doing is, is E two, and it's either people investing directly in here or, or maybe they're rolling off of like a student visa and looking for a way to, to stay in the US or get a different type of visa. But yeah. Yeah, that's awesome.

00:03:05Alex

And I, and, and honestly, I don't have a lot of experience working with people in the franchise world. It's not something I've, I've been thinking about, so that's why this is a really interesting conversation for me because, 'cause yeah, just, you know, you've done it, but just starting a business is difficult and all, and in particular, starting a business in a country you don't live, you.

Minimum Requirements for E-2 Visa Applications

00:03:25Adam

Absolutely. Absolutely. And, and look, Alex, I mean, let's talk about some of these minimum requirements, right? So. One of the minimum requirements that we have is you gotta speak English, right?

00:03:34Alex

Yeah.

00:03:35Adam

Uh, and there is a a dollar requirement for this. One of the things that's very attractive, I've had people that have been approved for E two for businesses that are under a hundred K, but that's

00:03:44Alex

Okay.

00:03:44Adam

the norm. That was, uh, before the pandemic, we're looking at at least $125,000 all

00:03:50Alex

what, what's the other, the, is it, I'm gonna butcher this, but the H one B five, is that right? Am I saying that right? What's the.

00:03:56Adam

EBEB five, EB five. or, and don't, don't forget, golden, right? Golden's 5 million now, right? $5

00:04:03Alex

Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

00:04:04Adam

has $5 million in their pillowcase, right? Ready to invest in something like this.

00:04:09Alex

And the E five is what, like a million or

00:04:13Adam

a million plus, but one of the big disadvantages of it. Is that it's not immediate. It's like here it's years, uh, waiting list to get the EB five,

00:04:20Alex

Right.

00:04:21Adam

so, uh, and there are other obscure visas, right? Um, especially if you're from, from India, that's not an E two treaty country, by the way. There are a hundred plus countries that are treaty countries. But what's exciting about this, Alex, is that literally I've never had anyone not approved.

00:04:37Adam

And I, I just think that this, I want to like shout from the rooftops. Do you wanna come to United States? Right? Do you want to extend your visa? Are you a previous H one B and don't want to be beholden to one company anymore? Uh, do you want your kids to have an American education? Get this visa? I mean, just the thought that it's $125,000 and I'm in is amazing.

00:04:56Alex

Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree completely. And I guess that's an interesting point. You mentioned rolling off of the h, the EB five. So the EB five, you're stuck with that.

00:05:07Adam

I'm talking, I'm talking about the H one B, sorry, that's different. H one B. I'm talking more about you're working for one employer

00:05:12Alex

okay. I, I got you.

00:05:14Adam

and, uh, and you're beholden to them. You're probably getting paid less than market rates.

00:05:19Alex

Right.

00:05:19Adam

only work for them. Maybe you want to work for yourself or have other flexibility and you're ready to kind of move on, but still stay in the United States.

00:05:26Adam

That's an, that's an option with E two.

00:05:29Alex

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Very cool. And I, I'm definitely, throughout this conversation, I'm gonna show my limitations on the, the, on butchering, the different visa types. 'cause I get very confused with them. 'cause from my perspective, I, you know, on the tax side. I generally don't care, you know, like once somebody comes to me, I'm, I'm determining whether they're a tax resident and, and when they're going to be a tax resident, which the rule is not very specific to the type of visa, um, with the exception of the green card, obviously.

00:05:59Alex

But anyway, so, so, yeah. Um, so let's talk, I guess more specifically about franchise. So what is a franchise and, and how does it. What's the first step on a franchise? So you're

00:06:13Adam

I'm, I'm, I'm, so, I'm, I'm so glad you even asked what a franchise is, right? Because there's some misconception. A franchise is very simple. It's a situation where you get a business model or a system and a brand, right? Think McDonald's and Hamburger University, right? In exchange for payments in the form of royalty payments and franchise fees.

00:06:37Alex

okay. Gotcha. So, yeah. Yeah. Okay. So I was gonna say, I mean, usually, usually you are, you are not investing into, like with the franchise, you're not investing into an existing business. You're starting your own business and paying this franchisor, which kind of has the startup operations ready to go for you.

00:06:59Alex

And that's gonna be different for every franchise situation, I imagine. But.

00:07:04Adam

And look, 95% of the time it's a brand new business. Every once in a while people are buying existing businesses. That's possible through an E two as well, right?

00:07:14Alex

Right.

00:07:14Adam

experience is finding that amazing resale is finding a u is like you finding a unicorn, right? And the reason why is you can overpay for a business, right?

00:07:24Alex

Right.

00:07:24Adam

uh, it might be doing great, but you might be buying it at the, uh, at the peak, which means that you're not getting a good value. And overpaying.

00:07:31Alex

Hmm.

00:07:31Adam

be buying a failing business. I don't care what amount of money you're paying for that. You don't wanna buy a failing business, right? Because you have lawsuits and, and, um, the analogy is a, a dog with fleas on it.

00:07:41Adam

No one wants a dog with fleas. Uh, and then you have something in, in between, right? Where you have a, some sort of an owner. Uh, that needs to sell somehow. And, and maybe it's a, some sort of a personal issue and, and it's a great business that you kind of get the right price. But that's really the, uh, that in my opinion, that's kind of the exception to the rule.

00:08:00Alex

Yeah, I got you. So, I mean, as far as, so as far as step one of investing into a franchise, so you find, obviously find a franchise a, that you're interested in, you know, but. You know, I don't know. Ha has, has a good marketability, a good future, a good price, I guess. But the way you're buying into it, there's usually a fee.

00:08:25Alex

Oh yeah. I think, Hey, let me, we'll cut this part out, but let me check my, I'm gonna change my internet over, so you may lose me for a second.

00:08:32Adam

Sure.

00:08:40Alex

All right. Hey, are you there?

00:08:43Adam

I am here. Yes, absolutely. So

00:08:45Alex

Yeah, yeah,

00:08:45Adam

you wanna ask the question again?

00:08:48Alex

yeah. What was my question? Um,

00:08:49Adam

Your question is how do, how do you start the franchise? How does, is it from, do you pay a fee? I mean, what, how do you get

00:08:54Alex

yeah,

00:08:54Adam

is the question.

00:08:55Alex

yeah, yeah, yeah. So, first step, you know, starting the franchise, how do you actually get started? Is there a fee to get in, um, and then there's a royalty after that? Or does, does it depend on the franchise or, or how does, I guess what's step one?

How Franchising Works for International Investors

00:09:10Adam

single, every, okay. Let's talk about, first, let's even start at the very beginning, right? So look, you people have two options, right? The first option is they can go to franchise brands directly, right? And then kind of even see if they're. E too friendly or not, and that's very time consuming, right? Second way to do this is to, is to go through me. It's a free service, right? Um, and what I do is I go ahead and I narrow it down to the top three brands for you based on, uh, survey and based on, uh, in-depth conversation and a model that I create for you. if you decide to invest in a franchise. Right. You pay a franchise fee, which is anywhere from $50,000 and up, and that's kind of the analogy is that's ip, right? That's kind of the amount that you need to spend in order to get into the system and to get this whole secret sauce, this hamburger university, wherever that might be. Now, I, I don't mean to be talking too much about McDonald's, but that's kinda what people know about.

00:10:07Adam

I work with brands that are pre-screened in 75 industries.

00:10:11Alex

Okay. Gotcha. And, and you mentioned, uh, before you mentioned brands that are E two friendly. What does that mean exactly?

00:10:19Adam

So, such a great question. I have not every brand accepts E two candidates. Right?

00:10:25Alex

Okay, so they're, they're connected. That, I guess that was one of my, that's what I didn't understand, is how is the E two and the franchise connected

00:10:33Adam

well, the way that they're connected

00:10:35Alex

at the same time?

00:10:36Adam

So what happens is, and this, these are great questions. When you're going to the consulate Canada

00:10:42Alex

Yeah.

00:10:43Adam

or in Germany, you come to them and you say, Hey, look, here is my franchise that I've signed my agreement. Here's my first client.

00:10:52Alex

Hmm.

00:10:52Adam

me a visa. Here's the, here's the, uh, place that I've signed a lease, uh, at a shared office space or whatever space it is. Please gimme a visa. That's, that's the connection, meaning you are getting. actual, uh, visa through the franchise and the vast majority of my franchisors that are E two Friendly are ones that allow you, even though I've never had anyone not approved, they, the money is not due until that Visa is approved

00:11:19Alex

I see.

00:11:19Adam

fee.

00:11:21Alex

So you have to tell that franchisor that you are doing this as part of an E two Visa, because otherwise, otherwise you can't invest in it without the Visa, I guess.

00:11:30Adam

That's correct.

00:11:31Alex

So.

00:11:31Adam

correct. You won't be you, you, you, it's, it's like, it's like you need the visa to get the franchise and you need the franchise to get the visa. It's like what comes first? The chicken or the egg? Or the

00:11:39Alex

That's what's confusing me a little bit. It's like, which, yeah, which one are you doing? Because I work with a lot of people that invest in the US help them set up LLCs and things like that. Not necessarily, it may just be like an investment LLC or, or something that they want to get their foot in the door with the us.

00:11:55Alex

But is is that, is that the first step setting up your US business to be like an LLC in the US to to be the franchisee? And then,

00:12:08Adam

look, I, I'm, I'm not an attorney when it comes to e twos. I, my understanding is that you can actually even get this E two Visa,

00:12:14Adam

yeah.

00:12:15Adam

Without having an LLC ahead of time. However, I strongly recommend that, and you're, you're the expert on this. That people get their LLC first, right? Meaning, uh, because you don't want to have, uh, personal liability if you're starting a business, right?

00:12:30Adam

So it's, and, and in many, uh, states, especially ones that are more business friendly, it's so easy to get an LLC up and running.

00:12:38Alex

Right. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, and I mean, from my perspective, and I, I preach this every time. It's like you're much better off coming to someone like me saying, Hey, I'm thinking about, I. Calling Adam to help me get this franchise set up in the us What do I need to, what, what does that look like from a US tax perspective if I start investing in here, moving into the us as opposed to calling me and saying, Hey, I started this franchise and moved to the us.

00:13:05Alex

It's like, well, we may have, we may have just burned a lot of potential tax savings opportunities. But, but yeah. So I guess let, let's walk through how you specifically help people. Like, so if I have a client, for example. You know, that's saying they're rolling off of a, a student visa. Or maybe, maybe they're, like you said, they're on the H one or you know, the employment type visa in the us but they wanna start their own business.

00:13:27Alex

Not sure where to go. You know, I tell 'em to get in touch with you to help to look into this franchise. What's, what, what's step one? I mean, you kind of mentioned it earlier, but how does, how.

How to find the right franchise investment

00:13:36Adam

Let's, let's to go more in depth. Step one is I have a 15 minute free consultation with anyone. Right, just to kind of see where they're at and if I could potentially help them. And then after this, this chat, I send them a survey that takes five to 10 minutes. And really the purpose of that survey, Alex, is for me to just be prepared when we speak more in depth later on. and then after we have this, uh, this, this survey, and we, we have a more in depth conversation with them and anyone else involved in this decision because let's talk about my average candidate. Many times it's a family, right? Uh, big motivation is for their kids to be at school in the United States.

00:14:13Alex

Yeah.

00:14:14Adam

we, uh, we go ahead and we write this two page letter or model, kind of digging down into the ideal business type, which we can discuss a little bit later, which ones are, are more E two friendly than others. And then I go ahead and connect them with these top three brands and wherever they want to move to the United States.

00:14:30Adam

And then they start their investigations directly with the franchise brand with my help.

00:14:35Adam

Okay, I got you. So there's a direct connection, so you're requesting that. I guess that connection through you, like requesting the, the, the franchise and I guess, I guess the franchisor is gonna have their own application process that you go through depending on,

00:14:51Adam

A absolutely. And look, just to be clear, I know we talked about this earlier, my service is totally free for candidates. Meaning if I

00:14:57Alex

okay.

00:14:58Adam

a successful match, it's the franchise brand that pays me a commission,

00:15:02Alex

No.

00:15:03Adam

a commission, not not the candidate.

00:15:05Alex

Okay. Very cool. So, yeah. So let's talk about some of the, those franchise brands, some that you've had success, success with. I mean, like, how do you, how do you narrow down with somebody? What's a good, what's a good franchise opportunity for them? Like if I, if I came to you and said, look, I wanna invest in a franchise.

00:15:22Alex

This sounds cool, you know, are you gonna find out, you know, what I'm interested in? And that sort of thing first. And then we talk about like, what are good options based on, based on my interests.

00:15:32Adam

This is a such a great question here. So it's more a dating agency. I think of myself as eHarmony or match.com. Uh, and, uh, and, and so it's not just one factor, it's many different factors. But when it comes to E two, really big issue is, is resources, right? Many people, uh, you can't get any sort of American financing like an SBA loan, um, because you're coming into the United States and you're not, you're actually using your own funds in order to invest in the American economy and hire people, right?

00:16:02Adam

So this is a cash transaction.

00:16:05Alex

Right.

00:16:05Adam

candidates are typically quite, um. Quite limited when it comes to funds, right? And that really eliminates, uh, many of my more expensive brands, right? Not everyone, but, um, many people don't have the funds to invest in McDonald's unless they have this golden visa, right?

00:16:21Adam

That's over a million dollars for a McDonald's. but if there, what I would say is the average type of franchise brand. And I'm not gonna talk about specific brands, but let's talk about industries. Things that work are very unglamorous. Businesses that are typically service companies and non brick and mortar, the candidate can come directly to a consular and say, Hey, I. at me. Uh, I have this amazing service company. I have this wonderful, uh, home cleaning business. Just as an example. Here is my lease. I already have my first house that I'm cleaning. Please give me the E two Visa and allow my family to come in with me.

00:16:59Alex

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Very cool. Yeah, I mean, so I, yeah, I'm thinking cleaning businesses. I mean, I have a friend, I have a friend that invested into, I think it's like, it's a power, like house power washing business, you know?

00:17:11Adam

a, that's a, that's an amazing type business. Not very glamorous, but recurring revenue.

00:17:15Alex

Right.

00:17:16Adam

mean, uh, there's just, just things that aren't things you might've thought of before, but it's just kind of like a, a business that has predictable revenue. And, uh, look, if I'm someone from outside of the United States too, there's a nuance.

00:17:28Adam

If you're not from Canada or someplace else, even if you're from Europe and having a brand that has really strong systems. Is really key, right? Because uh, if you have other people that are walking the same path as you immigrating here, and, uh, these cultural norms and they have like this playbook or this system that's really powerful and really robust and

00:17:45Alex

Yeah.

00:17:46Adam

team members that are helping you in your success, that's a really powerful value proposition for you.

00:17:52Alex

Yeah, for sure. I mean, I mean, having my own business, that's probably the hardest part. Other than maybe like staffing, which is another thing, but getting your processes set up. I. You know, from scratch takes a lot of time and it's difficult. And I think having a cultural barrier, a geographical barrier, would make that a lot.

00:18:12Alex

So yeah, coming into a, uh, for me that would be one of the first things I would wanna understand about a potential franchisor relationship is, you know, what processes am I stepping into and can I just get rolling with this business, you know, pretty quickly off the bat. So I think that's one of the main benefits, right.

00:18:32Adam

Absolutely, and, and look, I'm a huge believer in the power of the immigrant. Right. I mean, if you look at all these things that happen in the United States, even in 2025, and even with all this buzz around the Trump administration, and I don't think the Trump administration is anti-immigrant, I think they're pro-immigrant, right?

00:18:47Adam

They're just

00:18:47Alex

Yeah.

00:18:48Adam

the right type of person coming to the United States.

00:18:51Alex

Yeah.

00:18:51Adam

I, I think that if you give this, give the new, the new immigrant to the United States, the right tools, uh, then they typically do really, really well.

00:19:01Alex

Yeah, for sure. I agree. Yeah, and I mean, not to go on a political bit, but at the same time, like how, how has the new administration, if you've seen anything affected, and I know you're not doing the two Visas applications, but like how have you seen, have you, have you seen any impact on that on the franchise?

00:19:21Adam

I've seen zero negative impact at all. If anything, more positive impact because. This is the same administration that implemented a golden visa. This is kinda like a golden visa light, right? Meaning, uh, golden visa. Whole idea behind it. The reason why the Trump administration went ahead and implemented is they said, Hey, we want more money into our economy.

00:19:40Adam

We want people that are going to pay money to be here and create jobs. That's why we're implementing this. This is the same situation, the same value proposition. Come in, invest, uh, create American jobs, and we welcome you.

00:19:54Alex

Right. And so the E two Visa, it doesn't have like a quota like some other visas, right? Like, I mean, you, like, for example, it's not like, alright, we've already this state or this, the country has met this quota, we're done for the year, or something like that.

00:20:10Adam

my understanding is there's no sort of quote on an E two.

00:20:13Alex

Yeah.

00:20:14Adam

Let, let's, let's kind of talk about a little bit further, dig into E two because you, you can get an E two outside of a franchise business. It's not like the

00:20:22Alex

Right,

00:20:23Adam

you get an E two is through franchising.

00:20:25Alex

right.

00:20:26Adam

I'm finding right, frankly, is if you go to a consulate, I. In Canada or somewhere else and you say, Hey look, you know, I'm an I or in Pakistan, and you say I'm an IT professional and I'm gonna create this amazing business in the United States. And they, they come to you and they kind of drill down. I mean, my understanding is the Pakistani consulate is more, uh, onerous in other places.

00:20:45Adam

And you say, Hey look, you know, I've never hired anyone before and I've never owned my own business. I might be an IT consultant. They're gonna shoot you down and reject you, right? Because, but if you come there with an established franchise brand that's been there for 40 years.

00:20:58Alex

Yeah.

00:20:59Adam

it has even has a hundred people that have been franchisees and you say, Hey, this is the system I'm buying in and this is the proven method. I, again, I have never had one of these not approved before.

00:21:10Alex

Yeah, no, that's a great point that, I mean, it's, it strengthens that argument of, you know, of coming to the US and creating a successful business, whereas otherwise, it's like, yeah, you know how to do your job, but do you really know how to run a business? You know, how prove it, how do you prove it? And so.

00:21:26Adam

Absolutely.

Challenges and Solutions for E-2 Visa Franchise Owners

00:21:27Alex

Yeah. Yeah. That's very interesting. So the, I forgot what I was gonna ask, but the, um, I guess on the E two Visa, I guess, what are some, what are some of the, the challenges you see people run into that, that get into this franchise world? There's obviously opportunities with it, but what are some of the challenges you see that, that, that could maybe be avoided or for people to look out for?

00:21:50Adam

Well, look, what I hear about E two is it's not a direct path to citizenship. And again, I'm not an attorney, right?

00:21:57Adam

So a way to get into the United States and for, and, uh, for families to get in. And, um, and actually by the way, it is renewable. So every, my understanding is every two years you have to prove that your business is a going concern.

00:22:10Adam

So some people have this long-term vision of coming to the states. But they neglect the business. Right. And then they come in and then all of a sudden, two years later, they're scrambling because they haven't necessarily done what needs to be done in the business. Right. But I, I've actually heard of other people that have been able to renew the E two for upwards of 10 or 20 years on a two year basis through this.

00:22:30Alex

Right. Okay. So, I mean, that'd be one of the things is just because you get into the US on the E two with the franchise, you gotta keep this thing rolling. I mean, it's a, it's a business. At the end of the day, you have to prove to the ir not the IRS, but uh, you know, the us, the government, that, that this is a continuing going concern visa.

00:22:51Alex

Right. And so what about on the franchise? On the franchise side? Have you, have you seen situations where maybe. Uh, you know, challenges, challenges getting started with the franchise, you know?

00:23:02Adam

I, my thing is that on the E two side, I don't see any issues with people starting, right.

00:23:08Alex

Yeah.

00:23:08Adam

what I can tell you is if you're coming to a different continent and you're starting from scratch, that's challenging, right?

00:23:14Alex

Right.

00:23:15Adam

about, we're about thriving, about, about being in the top. Every single franchise brand has. Quadrants, right? Like the top people, or we'll call them thirds,

00:23:24Alex

Yeah.

00:23:25Adam

people over performers. Average performers under performers. If you're coming from outside of the United States and trying to get this thing going. By nature, it might be harder than normal for you to kind of get in the flow and to hire and to really succeed.

00:23:37Adam

So what I find is that, uh, the hardest time for my candidates are, is at the very beginning, right? They tend to actually overperform other franchisees in year one or year two, or by the end of year one or year two. But it's just the beginning's harder.

00:23:50Alex

Right. I mean, do, do you find. Is it normal for a franchise agreement to be negotiable when you get into it? Like for example, like if something, because I could see situations where it'd be, they'd have very strict rules, you know, it's like you have to do this, this, and this, and that could put a limitation on, on, on some of that freedom.

00:24:13Alex

And I, I'm sure that that's gonna be very specific to whatever franchise or situation you get into. But are you usually, is it just a box, you're saying like everybody's in the kind of a similar box, or is they, are they negotiable to some extent?

00:24:24Adam

So certain things are negotiable inside a franchise agreement. Certain things aren't right. Uh, franchise fees are not because if they went ahead and gave you some sort of a, an abatement on that, they'd have to give it to every other franchisee,

00:24:37Alex

Right.

00:24:38Adam

Um, things that are negotiable are things such as territory, uh, meaning, uh, let's say that you want an extra region of, of, uh, mobile Al Alabama.

00:24:46Adam

They would, might go ahead and give you additional zip codes, Alex, that that might be

00:24:50Alex

Or, or like one thing I was thinking like, yeah, what if I, what if I franchised with the, the power washing company here in Mobile, Alabama? But how do I know they're not going to franchise 10 other people? You know, right around me, you know, to, to, to saturate my market. You know, just, I'm sure there's so many details with these things, but I, I guess I, that's all I was curious about is do you help people with these negotiations and understanding the, the group

00:25:19Adam

understand the disclosure document. Right. And,

00:25:22Alex

so they know what they're signing up for?

00:25:23Alex

Yeah.

00:25:24Adam

And, uh, I, I totally, I'm here to educate my candidates.

00:25:28Alex

Yeah,

00:25:28Adam

what I can tell you is that great franchise brands protect you from a territory perspective where no one else can compete with you in a, within a

00:25:35Alex

because it, I guess it's in their, it's not in their best interest either to saturate their own,

Restrictions & Flexibility around E2 Visa Holders

00:25:42Alex

Right. Yeah, that makes sense. All right, cool. Well, yeah, I mean, to me, I think it's a great way and, and a great way for people to, you know. To get their foot in the door. And do you know, do you know from an E two Visa perspective, are you, like, let's say you come, let's say it all goes well, you, you invest in a franchise, you get the E two Visa, you're here in the us, can you start another business, start another franchise?

00:26:08Alex

Or you're kind of locked into what you're doing under that Visa,

00:26:10Adam

one of the best things about this, about this visa, right? My understanding is that, again, not an attorney,

00:26:17Adam

it's the kind of thing where you can get your whole family in. Uh, and I, it's a, it's a strategy that my candidates have in that one person is, is doing the E two visa themself, right?

00:26:28Adam

They're the primary, but then you have a secondary, and my understanding is that the secondary, the spouse and the kids. They have amazing, uh, flexibility, meaning they might get a green card. I mean, that's one of the big benefits of this, that it's not just you, it's your whole family that comes in as well.

00:26:43Alex

right. I got you. Yeah, so I'm gonna plug in just a little bit of the tax side of it, just just for people to understand when you, when you invest in these, or when you come to the US at all, the thing to be careful of is or to understand is when your tax residency due date or when your tax residency begins, because that's the day you're gonna be subject to worldwide income tax, worldwide tax reporting.

00:27:06Alex

So if you have businesses outside the US that you are leaving there assets. There's things you can do before triggering your US tax residency that may give you a better tax result than if you try to figure it out later. Um, and the other thing I would say is I, I guess just on structuring in general, and this is something, you know, I don't know if, if you get into this side of it very much Adam, but.

00:27:32Alex

How you structure that, that investment, whether through a corporation, through an LLC, individually. I mean, generally you're gonna wanna have a business and in the US the flow through type businesses work better. Uh, or for small businesses it, it's more manageable, I guess. But is that what you typically see as us set up an LLC and it's same member partnership, something like that?

00:27:54Adam

absolutely and, and look, I'm glad you bring, you're bringing these tax implications up because I wanna specifically, I'm not sure if you work with a lot of people from India or not.

00:28:03Alex

Yeah. No, I do.

00:28:04Adam

Okay. Okay. So what I want to say is this, that, um, India, for whatever reason is not an E two treaty country,

00:28:10Alex

Right.

00:28:11Adam

But one of the things that I'm finding is that for people in India that have a company, in India or or somehow have access to a family business,

00:28:19Alex

Hmm.

00:28:20Adam

way for them to come to the United States is to potentially have an L one visa. what that, what the L one means is that somehow that company. Um, is actually doing business in the United States and potentially what they do is they buy a franchise business under an L one Visa, not an E two. So in many ways it's kinda like a substitute E two for, for people from

00:28:41Alex

Ah, and that, so the L one, I think that's like an intercompany

00:28:45Adam

Yes. So it could be a situation where someone has a restaurant in India, right. That's

00:28:51Adam

They don't wanna create the new restaurant in the United States, but they want their kids to. Go to school in Dallas or in Houston.

00:28:58Adam

co, they buy an American franchise restaurant on an L one Visa and that is an acceptable, uh, visa plan with the consulate in New Delhi.

00:29:07Alex

Yeah, because that's what I used to do a lot of when I, I worked at pwc and I did, you know, big companies that would do intercompany transfers and that would usually be L one Visas coming to the us. But yeah, that's an interesting workaround. 'cause I did notice before this, I wasn't aware of the treaty country concept, or at least specifically with the E twos.

00:29:26Alex

But that was a big one that jumped out to me is that India wasn't on there and there's a lot of, you know, there's obviously a lot of Indians here. Um, but that's a good workaround, potentially is getting better.

00:29:36Adam

interesting too, something a big buzz in the E two community as well, Alex, is that. Um, Portugal is a relatively new, uh, entrant to the E two Visa game,

00:29:46Adam

means is that people from Brazil are now able to come in

00:29:52Adam

many Brazilians have, um, Portuguese citizenship as well.

00:29:56Alex

Interesting. Okay. Yeah. And I wonder if that's the same 'cause I work with a lot of people saying Argentina. I don't know if Argentina's in there, but then,

00:30:03Adam

Argentina is part of the E two. There are over a hundred countries, right? So

00:30:08Adam

India unique in that it's one of these really amazing countries with over a billion 0.4 people, but not an E two,

00:30:16Alex

Right. Yeah. I mean between India and China, those two not on there. That makes up like half the world, I think. But, uh, I don't know.

00:30:25Adam

the way, ha. Um, my understanding is that Taiwan and I believe Hong Kong are both treaty countries.

00:30:30Alex

Right. Okay. All right. Very cool. Well, yeah, this is a very, very interesting, uh, I learned a lot from this and very interesting way that people can, can get into the us definitely check out these, these franchise. Franchise options. Um, yeah. So how can people get in touch with you? What's the best way to get in touch with you if they have question?

00:30:48Adam

to go to my website, franchise visa.net. Book a time for a, for a free consultation. That's about 10 minutes, and I promise to let you know if I think we're a fit or not.

00:30:59Alex

Yeah. Alright, sounds good. And obviously if you have tax questions, talk to me before you move to the US and uh, and yeah, well great to have you on, Adam. I appreciate it. Please reach out to Adam if he can help you with your franchise stuff and, uh, talk to y'all next time.

00:31:14Adam

Thank you so much, Alex.

00:31:16Alex

All right, see you Adam.

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